Tuesday, July 14, 2015

Roland Martin and Michael Eric Dyson butt heads over the N-word




http://twitter.com/#!/rolandsmartin/status/213012393545039873


Tuesday night, writer and academic Michael Eric Dyson appeared on MSNBC’s “The Ed Show,” where he talked with music mogul Russell Simmons about Gwyneth Paltrow’s use of the N-word earlier this month in a tweet. Dyson and Simmons ultimately took the position that the N-word is acceptable for use in society, but with one very important limitation: the user must be black. Moreover, according to Simmons, said black individual must have a direct bloodline to a slave in order to drop “ni**a” (or some variant) into a conversation. Riiiiiiight. Simmons failed to offer any insight as to how someone’s bloodline would be verified.


In the case of the Paltrow kerfuffle, Gwyneth was given a “pass” by rapper Nas and consequently by Simmons, but Dyson asserted that it’s never any black person’s place to give a white person a pass for using the N-word. Dyson’s final pronouncement? “I would suggest to all white people, here’s an iron-clad law that will help you at all points. Here’s when you can say the word: Never.”



Roland Martin, columnist, talk show host, and CNN contributor, was less than pleased with Dyson and Simmons’ contention that N-word is OK for blacks but not for anyone else. For Martin, the N-word is never acceptable. Not for me, not for thee, not for anyone.


What followed was a very spirited debate between Martin and Dyson:


I found the rationale by @michaeledyson & @unclerush in saying it"s OK for Blacks to use the N-word to take the venom out UTTER NONSENSE


— rolandsmartin (@rolandsmartin) June 13, 2012


If Jay-Z and Kanye West make a song call "Niggas in Paris," it"s dumb for anyone to get offended when someone white says it in a reference


— rolandsmartin (@rolandsmartin) June 13, 2012


When Black people tell white people, none of you can and should use the word, then it"s in a song, no wonder folks are confused!


— rolandsmartin (@rolandsmartin) June 13, 2012


This ridiculous "we can-you can"t" argument is sophomorish, unnecessary and ridiculous.


— rolandsmartin (@rolandsmartin) June 13, 2012


I don"t want to hear any crap about "down" white people or a "hood pass." I want to see @michaeledyson @unclerush & others evolve on this!


— rolandsmartin (@rolandsmartin) June 13, 2012


@rolandsmartin @unclerush I didn"t give a hood pass to anyone! You must watch our segment last night and see for yourself!


— Michael Eric Dyson (@MichaelEDyson) June 13, 2012


Frankly, it"s pure laziness when people refuse to change their thinking in using the word. Surely an educated person can stop using it.


— rolandsmartin (@rolandsmartin) June 13, 2012


@rolandsmartin @unclerush I don"t infantilize white folk as if they"re not grown enough not to know they can"t use the word. Black folk can


— Michael Eric Dyson (@MichaelEDyson) June 13, 2012


@rolandsmartin @unclerush and do, with admittedly complicated and mixed results! The answer isn"t to ban everyone; the answer is to


— Michael Eric Dyson (@MichaelEDyson) June 13, 2012


@rolandsmartin @unclerush understand history and culture, context and application. That"s more difficult, but also more rewarding.


— Michael Eric Dyson (@MichaelEDyson) June 13, 2012


By the way, all of those Blacks who fled to Paris to escape Jim Crow, did it so they WOULDN"T be called the N-word! How "bout that history?


— rolandsmartin (@rolandsmartin) June 13, 2012


@McNastyland now that is pure ignorance. Black folks didn"t pay in blood, sweat and tears to be able to use the N-word. FOOLISH!


— rolandsmartin (@rolandsmartin) June 13, 2012


@MichaelEDyson @unclerush Let me just go there: why can"t you call someone "brother" instead of the N-word? What"s wrong with sister?


— rolandsmartin (@rolandsmartin) June 13, 2012


@rolandsmartin @unclerush Can? Sure. Should? No equally so. As for brother/sister, that"s fine. Just doesn"t carry signifying intimacy of


— Michael Eric Dyson (@MichaelEDyson) June 13, 2012


@rolandsmartin @unclerush of other terms, especially thise used in formerly venemous ways by white society. The pleasure of reversal.


— Michael Eric Dyson (@MichaelEDyson) June 13, 2012


Did I use to use it? Yes. Do I now? No. Was it easy to eliminate from my vocabulary? It"s called making a grown man decision!


— rolandsmartin (@rolandsmartin) June 13, 2012


@MichaelEDyson @unclerush I watched the segment. And both of you should have said, "Let"s get rid of the word COMPLETELY." No justification!


— rolandsmartin (@rolandsmartin) June 13, 2012


@MichaelEDyson @unclerush I don"t see you as an N-word. You are a BLACK man. I see ancestral pride in brothers, not a filthy description


— rolandsmartin (@rolandsmartin) June 13, 2012


@rolandsmartin @unclerush Beautiful. As I see you. But "black" was just as bad as N word for many black folk 50 yrs ago. Language bends too.


— Michael Eric Dyson (@MichaelEDyson) June 13, 2012


@MichaelEDyson @unclerush Why can"t you say, "my man" instead of the N-word? Is it really that hard? No, it"s not.


— rolandsmartin (@rolandsmartin) June 13, 2012


@MichaelEDyson @unclerush Man, please! Who finds "pleasure" in using the N-word? That"s a ridiculous line of thought.


— rolandsmartin (@rolandsmartin) June 13, 2012


@MichaelEDyson @unclerush Maybe this discussion shows that when we get so much education we lose our minds.


— rolandsmartin (@rolandsmartin) June 13, 2012


If I see a group of young Black boys acting a fool, I say, "why those boys acting a fool?" Not, "look at them N-words acting a fool" Got it?


— rolandsmartin (@rolandsmartin) June 13, 2012


So on this N-word topic, I"m done. Carry on at your leisure.


— rolandsmartin (@rolandsmartin) June 13, 2012


And that’s all he wrote. But we have a feeling this is one controversy that won’t disappear anytime soon.


So what do you think? Who’s on the right side of this argument?


Read more: http://twitchy.com/2012/06/13/roland-martin-and-michael-eric-dyson-butt-heads-over-the-n-word/




Roland Martin and Michael Eric Dyson butt heads over the N-word

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